Talk:Shun

Shun-O
Here in Twelve Kingdoms Wikia it says, Emperor Shun. But in Dreaming of Paradise- Kizan when the imperial family ask Rikou about the others kingdoms he answered,

"... The rest are getting by. Shun hit a few uneven spots recently, but it's a young dynasty with only forty years under her belt, so they may just be working out the kinks..."

I read it on Eugen woodbury's page. But if it's not wrong then the Emperor Shun sould be changed for Empress Shun.

Juufan.Juufan 16:02, January 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * You've brought up an interesting point and I've gone to look at the translation. Unfortunately, I think there's some syntactic ambiguity with the sentence, because when Rikou refers to "Shun" he could be referring to the monarch of Shun or the country of Shun.


 * If he's referring to Shun the country, it's a common convention in English to refer to a country using feminine pronouns. It would be very difficult to tell unless we saw the original Japanese text and had someone who was fluent enough in English and Japanese to explain the nuances of the sentences.

Chatellerault 06:43, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * It would probably be best to leave it alone or try to make the term as gender neutral as possible given how little information is given on the monarch of Shun in the series.


 * I didn't know that of refering to a country as a she, that's why I wasn't thinking it that way.
 * All right then, bye bye.


 * Juufan 05:19, January 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi. Today I sent an email to Eugene Woodbury asking about this topic and the answer was;
 * Your friend is correct. The antecedent of "her" is the Kingdom of Shun. Actually, to be grammatically consistent, I should have written, "it's a young dynasty with only forty years under its belt" or "she's a young dynasty with only forty years under her belt."
 * So you were right, by her It was the kingdom.
 * Bye bye.
 * Juufan 22:50, June 27, 2012 (UTC)